Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
And my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
And what it's like to be siblings.
We are a sibling rivalry.
No, no.
Sibling rivalry.
Don't do that with your mouth.
Sibling.
Reverie
That's good
Today we have Anthony Williams, a.k.a. The Medical Medium
This was awesome
This was really cool
Right
He's obviously been, I've read his books, my wife has been obsessed with him for a long time
He is the man behind the celery craze
He is, which I am a part of now, and so are you guys, right?
Love it, love the celery juice
But having him on was really fun. I did my personal research on him and saw what he was like in other shows and other podcasts. And it was my goal to make him crack a little bit.
Like loosen him up?
Loosen him up a little bit.
I feel like we got there.
You know, I think that his work is very serious to him.
It's something that he lives with.
It's also something that I think that the outside, a lot of people in the outside world find very skeptical, which is understandable.
And it's fun to have people like that on because you can kind of challenge them a little bit.
And, you know, you do have moments where you think, how is this possible that someone could have such a gift and a connection to, as he says, the spirit of compassion, that he's able to really just diagnose what's going on in someone's body?
Look, there's skeptics.
There's always skeptics in everything, okay?
In everything that we sort of do or that people, especially with something like this, when you are, I mean, think about it for a second.
Let's just get down to brass tacks, okay?
This is a man who's saying that there was a spirit of compassion who contacted him from another realm at the age of four years old or so.
And he diagnosed his grandmother with lung cancer.
And now he is being told by this spirit of compassion the remedies how to sort of heal mankind.
Okay.
When you just look at that, you have to –
It sounds crazy.
It sounds crazy.
And what's great about him is he –
But he says it.
He knows.
He understands that.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
He knows it sounds crazy.
Yes.
I also, you said something that I think is really important, which is even if it is crazy, everything that he's putting out there is in the best intention of someone's health and their longevity.
So to sort of put it down is counterproductive really because everything that he talks about is quite good for you.
Yes.
whether it be the foods that you're eating or the supplements that you could be taking all of these things are
the problem is is there's just a bunch of assholes out there
holly no there are there's a bunch of assholes out there i think who are just trolling and sort of rip them apart
just because it's something different you know what i mean right they're not looking at sort of
his intentions they're not looking at this idea that he's sort of trying to help people they're
just sort of saying this isn't scientifically based and there is no real empirical evidence
and you are sort of ruining you know okay i'm gonna play devil's advocate to what you're saying
right now because some of those people would say that they feel that it's irresponsible of people
to go out and say these things because it's actually doing people a disservice because
they think they're going to get healed by things that won't necessarily heal them totally so
So that being said.
But isn't that up to the individual?
Yes.
We are all free to believe and do the things that we want to do.
That's right.
And I think there's a way to say that that is kind and nice.
And not saying asshole.
And meaningful than people just having these harsh criticism and judgments.
I don't mean that you're all assholes.
I don't want to.
I think though that when anybody's trying to do something for the betterment of mankind, that it's a wonderful thing.
And his purpose in life and his gift is to do just that.
And I think that he has been very helpful to a lot of people.
Right.
And believe it or not, you know, you can be a skeptic or not.
I have not personally, you know, gone through his program because I haven't necessarily needed to.
but I have seen, I have seen.
You probably should.
I know.
Do his practice.
I probably should.
You say you don't need to, but it probably would benefit.
Erin, my wife Erin has a best friend who was going through a situation
that was beyond anything you could possibly imagine with her body.
It was this chronic illness.
She didn't know what it was, went to every fucking doctor.
she read the books was religious about practicing and it it healed her it cured her it made her
life amazing she has a kid and things are different the other thing about anthony though is
just aside from him being the medical medium he's such a nice person so nice he's such a sweet
person, a great disposition. You know, his energy is infectious. You know, he really cares. He is
passionate about this. You know what I mean? Whether you believe it or not, okay? And everyone
should find a passion like he has found his and really sort of go after it like he has gone after
his. And it's a part of him. Yeah, I'm grateful for people who also just spread the word of health
and taking care of themselves.
And at the end of the day,
we all should be eating more fruits and vegetables.
Anyway.
Yeah.
I drink the celery juice.
I do every morning.
Oh my God.
I just crap myself every-
It's crazy.
Oh, I'm crapping from my throat.
Oliver.
I feel it.
It's almost like if I eat breakfast and eat celery juice,
I can feel the egg McMuffin being pulled out of my throat
Oh, well, first of all, you're not supposed to eat and then take the celery juice.
You're supposed to wake up with an empty stomach, drink the celery juice.
This is an Egg McMuffin from like 1993.
I feel that when I take the celery juice every morning, I kind of do a little walk or I'll move around with the celery juice.
And I do, I find that I actually have felt a real difference in the last couple of months as I've been doing that than I ever have.
And I also feel that since I've been doing that, my tolerance for things that aren't good for you is way less.
So if I drink, I feel it in my stomach in the morning, which is different.
And then if I have celery juice, I actually can feel the detox.
It's kind of wild.
So my body feels clean.
So anything that hits my body that isn't good for it, I can feel it having an effect.
I don't know if that's just me.
No, no, I know what you mean.
No, no, no.
Because when I sit on the toilet, which, by the way, it's like sprinting nine times out of ten because it comes on strong.
Anybody who does celery juice is actually going to know it all the first time.
It's nuts.
It's like everything's good.
And, you know, I'm in my car.
I dropped the kids off from school.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
And I hit the gas and I go like 150 miles an hour to get home.
But it feels like you are eliminating just toxins out of your body.
Anyway, really grateful he came on.
It was so much fun.
Yeah, really fun.
And it makes me want to talk to more psychics and more mediums and different fields.
Because I think we had just such a blast with that, you know?
Yeah.
And we do believe in spirits and stuff.
Like, we don't believe that we're all alone here.
Nope.
Even though we understand why some people do believe that this is it.
But we come from another school.
So it was fun for us.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Here he is.
Enjoy.
The medical medium himself, Anthony Wood.
We always start with everybody that we interview.
Give us your background, like where you grew up.
Right.
And then, of course, we'll get into like when you were four and you had to.
We'll quickly do that.
I spent most of my life in the state of Maine.
That's, you know, right up there in the woods.
That's where Kurt's from.
That's where our stepdad is from.
Yeah.
You know, there you go.
You and Kurt Russell.
Yeah.
Two peas in a pod.
Nobody else comes from up there.
I don't know.
So it must be just us two.
That's it.
And Stephen King.
I don't know.
That's kind of an awesome trio.
It's an interesting trio.
But it's crazy.
So, you know, and I dedicated my life bringing information no one's ever heard about health
because it comes from up here, from above, from the spirit of compassion.
So that's been my entire mission.
It's like solving the mysteries with the information I hear perfectly clear.
So it started at age four.
Heard a voice, woke up one morning and heard a voice.
but it wasn't in my head.
I wish it was.
I swear to God,
it would have had an easier life if it was.
If it was in my head,
it would have been so much easier.
It was from the outside and you can hear it.
You actually hear it.
Yeah, yeah.
You can hear it perfectly clear.
Like I hear you
and that's what's made it so darn hard the whole time.
Whoa.
But it makes it so people don't,
you know, people know in the spiritual movement,
if you're exhausted or you're tired
or you've, say you've exhausted yourself in some way,
in life, right? And you're spiritually tuned in and you channel and all this other stuff. Well,
it's okay because you can just crash and call it a day. It doesn't matter what condition I'm in.
I could be like book deadline, work till five in the morning. I'm totally shot. Then two hours
later, no sleep, back to work. Then on the phone trying to help somebody or whatever it is, or
somebody coming into an office and seeing me, whatever. And I could be like literally half
dead, but I'm going to hear the voice because no matter what, if you're awake, you hear it.
If you're awake, you hear it. You can't avoid it.
So when you were little, you grew up in Maine. Did you grow up by the water? Did you grow up in
the woods? Yeah, in the woods. Yeah, exactly.
And did you have a picturesque type childhood? You had three siblings, mom and dad.
Were they together? Did you have a, you know, what was your family unit like?
Family was solid. Without my family, this would have been so hard.
Right.
This would have been so hard.
And your parent and your.
I had good family support.
Yeah.
You had good family support.
It wasn't easy.
Nothing's easy.
Nothing's easy.
You know what I mean?
It's like there was no, it wasn't picture perfect, you know, and it can't be.
But I've been lucky.
I've been lucky, fortunate in a sense where, you know, really supportive family.
A lot of people know about your first experience with your grandmother, I believe.
And maybe you can just tell us that story real quick about the first time that you realized
that you were connecting to something.
I woke up just like everybody wakes up in the morning and they're up, right?
And I opened my eyes and then I hear a voice perfectly clear.
Right there.
Right then.
And it was – scared me because I'm like, who's in the room with me?
I have that.
I have the same thing.
I do.
I have this.
She hears voices.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't talk about it publicly.
But I mean now I do.
But I have this.
Well, okay.
Then exactly.
So when you hear that, you get frightened a little bit.
And then I jumped up.
I looked out the window.
I opened the door in the bedroom.
And here I'm really small, really little, and I'm really confused.
So then I run downstairs.
There really isn't anything happening.
I ask about it in the way I could, the best way I could.
And I just kind of shucked it off for a little bit.
And then it came again.
And then – but it was gentle.
And it was that old man voice, correct?
It was gentle, very compassionate.
And for some reason, it was agreeable.
You know, it wasn't, it was frightening in the sense that who is this, right?
But at the same time, it's okay.
It's gonna be okay.
I was starting to get a sense that this is gonna be okay.
I think, you know, the power of whatever all of this is, it just kind of helped me along
with it because it wasn't just the voice.
It was the spirit of compassion.
I talk about it in the first book, Medical Medium.
The spirit of compassion is at the fingertip of God.
And I tell people that, I've talked to people before,
they're like, I don't believe in God.
And I say, that's okay.
What do you believe?
Do you believe in something else up there?
Do you believe in the light?
Do you believe in something else?
Is it just a big ocean up there?
Do you believe in God?
I mean, I do.
Do you believe in God in the biblical sense of God?
Yes, and very much so in that sense, right?
But at the same time, I mean, I got really good friends.
They just believe that there's this all-knowing creator.
Then I have a friend that just believes
it's just a light source, right?
I got somebody that believes that it's just the universe.
And I say, well, talk to me.
And they're like, no, it's the universe.
It's just the universe, right?
And it's all the same to me.
That's the thing.
You know what I mean?
That's the beauty of spirituality.
Yeah, it's all the same to me, right?
And so the power of that source,
I think really helped me with this
because I didn't take it so hard right at the get-go.
I think I was probably under some kind of trance,
probably to give me, like to soothe me
and to keep me calm while I had to adjust
from the spirit of compassion.
And I really believe that.
And it's a voice that's very soothing.
um it hey look if someone else got this this gift and and heard everything perfectly clear
and it could be a different voice to them because they needed to hear a different voice
they they needed to hear i i needed to hear this voice and specifically do you do you still hear
this voice every day you do all the time non-stop and is the voice a specific voice meaning like
Sort of explain that it was an older...
Older man.
Man, right.
That's the voice.
Calm, soothing, slightly joyful, depending.
Has a little bit of a sense of humor.
Sounds like...
Sense of humor no one probably would think was a sense of humor.
Sounds like Santa Claus.
Yeah.
Hey, look.
Oliver.
I called him Santa Claus before.
I've called him a lot of things.
Now, did it take you – because I know in my experience, I actually had to go to someone because I wanted to learn how to shut it off for me.
It was too scary for me, and I didn't like it, and I would wait.
I'd have like my best friend's father passed away.
He kept coming to me all the time, and it just – I just didn't want it.
So I was 15 and it was interesting because I, in your book, you do talk about being 15
and that being a time that you were sort of like, I want to shut this off.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I was desperate.
Yeah.
Desperate to shut this off.
And I learned how to do that.
Now, did you have the support?
Like I had the support of my mom who really does sort of reach out into this world that
I think, you know, some people have a hard time grasping to actually take me to the right
people to teach me how to, to the tools.
But like, did you reach for your family in the way of like communicating to them what was going on?
I always stayed.
Yes, we always stayed tight for sure.
You know, we always did.
It was important.
But no family or anyone, no matter what, just it, when you're in that place where I don't want to do this anymore.
I don't want to hear this voice because it's not just hearing a voice every day.
It's hearing a voice telling me everything that's wrong with every single person that comes near me.
meaning what's wrong with every aspect of their health.
Are their adrenals okay?
What's wrong with their thyroid?
Do they have a brain tumor?
Do they have cancer?
Do they not have cancer?
Do they have this?
Do they have that?
And it's nonstop.
You're sitting in school.
It was like when I was sitting in school.
That's so crazy.
And you know, I was sitting in school and-
Oliver's like, please tell me what's wrong with me.
I know.
Am I dying?
No, but is there a point
where you feel like you're going crazy?
I mean, is there an acceptance of this voice,
meaning like, because a lot of some people
might end up on the street talking to themselves.
Yeah, what eliminates the crazy factor
is that you're always right
with what's wrong with the person.
So then it's just, you can't escape that.
So like, for instance, in class, right?
Okay, the other child's sitting next to me
in elementary school, all right?
And Spirit of Compassion said,
this child has meningitis, okay?
So I got up and I talked to the teacher
and I said, you know, that classmate,
the person next to me has meningitis and so she got scared and she asked she called you know upon
that classmate asked if you're okay and he said it was fine he said it was perfectly fine there's
nothing wrong nothing going on and so then she called our parents in his parents my parents in
so now we're all there and you know because it's kind of alarming like first of all where would i
even get that how would i even claim you're claiming something yeah yeah and i'm really
young so think about that so after the dust cleared he didn't come to school the next day
he was in the hospital with 105 temperature with meningitis and so you you can cancel out the crazy
factor really easily especially when your family knows you're always right they see how you're
right all the time you've helped out different various people that in their in their circle
and lots of people in their circle so you know when that happens you just it you can't be like
oh, oh, it's crazy.
And then you know you're not, you know you're not.
And when you know you're not and you're doing God's work
or the universe's work, you know,
however someone might think or feel,
you just move forward.
You're just like, okay, let's just solve problems then.
Let's save lives.
Let's do that.
Did it become sort of like a lifelong journey
then for you to actually understand the science
behind the things that you're doing?
Oh yeah, no, it's right off the bottom,
right off the bottom, like from the start, right there,
spirits telling me about viruses what they do how they mutate how they're responsible for all
these different conditions and people's symptoms from everything from neuropathy to trigeminal
neuralgia i'm hearing that at eight nine years old holy shit so the spirit is your edge is your
educator oh yeah you didn't have to open textbooks to learn you were being i never opened up a
textbook all the books are advanced medical information that doctors are using across
this country and globally right now that it was and it came from up here that is being spoken
People steal from it.
I call it steal is they'll take it.
They'll stick it in some other bogus article that has misinformation or a science study that didn't do anything for anybody.
And they'll take my piece that's actually only from Spirit.
It's never been from anywhere else.
And they'll put it in places that because, you know, because they almost like they don't.
I've noticed a lot of people in the industry don't want to give Spirit of Compassion the credit.
They don't want to give me the credit for being the guy that brought the celery juice here that's saving millions of people's lives across this globe, right?
In the sense where they'll say, oh, it must have been here before him.
It was never here before him.
That's the whole point.
It started with me in 1975, juicing celery for conditions and all the reasons why, and it's still with me now.
But people don't – they just don't like the fact that it comes from up here, which I respect.
Yes.
100%.
Well, I respect 100%.
People have a right to need empirical evidence to trust.
That's a good point.
And I think this is what's really interesting.
I always have these conversations with people because I always have a very practical, scientific-based, psychic type of personality, right?
So I'm very intuitive.
I have my thing.
But at the same time, I recognize that empirical evidence is something that people need to have faith or to believe a lot of the time.
And yet what's fascinating is that most, especially in our country, are very religious.
So they have these strong belief systems.
And yet when it comes to science, they don't actually apply those things to their beliefs, which is something that is also not empirical evidence.
Yeah, great point.
So I find that like, you know, no matter what anybody says, right, or no matter what any of the naysayers say, the power of belief and faith is just as important as saying the empirical evidence of saying this thing is actually going to cure this and this is why and here's the evidence.
Oh, totally.
Well, we're jumping ahead a little bit, but I watched that documentary Heal.
Sure.
That you were on.
Yeah.
Right.
And it was about mind, body.
Yeah.
Amazing, amazing documentary.
Amazing.
It was really eye-opening for me.
Yeah.
And it was just about how we have the power to heal ourselves.
And that belief alone is sometimes just as powerful as any sort of medicine.
You know what I mean?
So real quick, just jumping back, because this is a question I don't want to forget.
But your parents, so when you were hearing the spirit and it became more a part of your life,
were they 100% accepting of this?
Oh, yeah.
They were 100% accepting of this right off the start.
Okay.
because of what I was saying.
How can he get, think about,
we're talking about the time this was, right?
There's no internet, there's no anything.
I mean, the information that was coming out of me
was just, you can't deny.
I mean, we're talking about,
I'm talking about different viruses, different bacteria.
I'm talking about what creates acne.
I'm talking about how antibiotics create
antibiotic resistant strep varieties
that create acne and UTIs
that nobody still even knows till today.
Stuff in this, in much of it that I've had to,
in my practice of, I mean,
I've worked on 200,000 individuals one-on-one
before the publications of the book's medical meeting.
Wow.
And so, and with the information
that has come from Spirit of Compassion,
and since the beginning, since it was always undeniable,
when I was a stock boy at age 12 in a small grocery store
and I built my own clientele up already
and they're pushing carriages around
and I'm saying, well, this is, you have diabetes.
You're like, well, where'd you get my medical records?
Now, when I say, hey, you have this,
they're thinking, oh, you hacked it online
to get a medical record.
I don't even know if you can,
but if it's even possible,
but you hear that now every now and then
from a skeptic or something.
But the bottom line is,
it's like it was, I built up that clientele really early.
It was undeniable.
When you actually have clients
and you're 13, 14 years old.
That's crazy.
Were they paying you?
Yeah, they were.
How much were you making at 13 years old?
I wasn't asking for anything.
They were just offering.
They were offering.
They were like, hey, I'll give you 20 bucks.
Come scan me.
I could have put a hat out or something like that.
Just drop the tips in there.
Well, here's the thing.
You were probably in a small, Maine is not the biggest place in the world.
I don't know what town you grew up in, but I'm sure that this caught on,
meaning like, oh, the Anthony kid, the William kid.
You got to bring him over to the house because he can – saves a lot of doctor bills.
Yeah, it does.
Exactly.
Well, that was what happened.
Did your parents use you?
Not use you, but did they say, oh, honey, like go see Mary down here and let's – I want to see if she's okay.
I mean was that part of your gig?
Was your family bringing you to different friends and stuff?
Oh, yeah.
That happened all the time.
That was going on.
There was that.
And so it – but here you're trying to do this and juggle real life though.
Yeah.
Right?
expectations in life, right?
Exactly, all of it, right?
Can you read yourself?
Of course.
Oh, see, I can't.
Yeah, of course, of course.
The reason why, the reason why,
because I'm not doing the reading.
Of course, but of course.
So let me ask you a question.
You don't have to answer this.
If it's too personal.
If I go deaf, I'm in trouble.
Why?
If I go deaf.
Oh, because you can't,
you won't be able to hear.
That's the whole point.
Have you self-diagnosed?
It's actually block,
that's what I've been trying to tell you.
It's actually blockable.
It's coming here into the ear from the outside, not from the inside.
And I hear it as clear as you from the outside.
And I could take my hand and wave it like this and kind of block it.
Like if you go, whatever, you don't want to hear somebody.
You still hear them though yelling in the back, right?
Well, that's what it is.
And you can't stop it.
That's wild.
So that's the whole point of what made it so hard where I was like, okay, well, this is the only thing I'm going to be able to do.
Nothing else ever.
It's this.
I'm stuck with it.
I mean, I wanted to like, you know, I wanted to like run a little restaurant when I was 10 years old.
I wanted to like cook eggs for everybody, even though spirit said eggs actually feed all manners of disease, even though no one knows that yet.
Okay.
But.
Damn it.
Shit.
I love it.
Because what it was was the eggs were actually used in the labs 100 years ago, 80, 90 years ago.
They were used in the labs to raise all of the bugs that we all have now that somehow escaped the labs, Spirit of Compassion says, and got into us and creates the fibromyalgia and the Hashimoto's thyroiditis and multiple sclerosis and all these other things.
Eggs were used as the food for that.
So Spirit of Compassion is like, doesn't matter if you're vegan or paleo or whatever you like or animal protein or not, take the eggs out and you'll have a shot to heal.
you keep the eggs in you're one egg away from getting sicker whenever that's gonna be whether
it's a month from now or whether it's gonna be another time from now but i wanted to run this
egg shack cook scrambled eggs for everybody every day because everybody was happy when you cook them
just right i'm still eating i don't care what the fuck you say to me i'm eating eggs i like my eggs
too much yeah well you can still eat them don't let me take them away do you get an annual physical
No.
You don't get a physical.
You don't see medical, any doctors?
No.
No, never.
Wow.
Okay, but what if, okay, okay.
What if you're really sick?
Yeah.
Will you go see a doctor?
Well, it all depends on what kind of sick you're talking about
because here's the difference, okay?
If for some reason my gallbladder wants to explode
and I need a really good surgeon,
which I've never experienced that,
I'm going to get that, I'm going to go.
You better believe it because I've always said
there's life-saving medicine, life-saving doctors.
That's not the problem.
I'm not anti-science either.
It's just that science and research
knows nothing about chronic illness.
They just know a lot about other things.
See, chronic illness, there's the big mistake was
everybody who believes in science
doesn't believe in science anymore
after they've been sick long enough
to get screwed over by medical research and science
because medical research and science
only protects one thing.
One of my best friends.
Medical research and science protects itself.
I can't wait to talk about what I'm about to ask him.
So I'm gonna tell you right now,
Here's how it works.
Medical research and science protects,
instead of people, it protects itself.
That's how it works.
Because that's why they've been telling women they're crazy
and it's all in their head in the 1950s and 1960s, 1970s,
that they're not really sick.
And then this is how it works.
And now they say your body's attacking itself.
You're faulty.
Your genes are faulty.
It's the worst shame game, shaming women's bodies.
Body shaming to the max right now.
The medical research and science and chronic illness
is to body shame women and demean them and disempower them.
It's built like that.
Why women?
This is a gender issue.
Why women?
Because women are that critical and important
because they change the rules.
Women have power.
Men don't.
And they're rule changers.
That's why.
That's right.
Even though men have always tried to hold the power
to change the rule,
right now, women have the power to really change rules.
And that's why.
Disempower them.
Knock them down so that when they get sick,
they can't do their careers.
They can't do what they want to do.
they get weakened, break them down.
That's what the industry does.
I'm not talking about the great doctors.
All the doctors are amazing.
Women doctors, men doctors, all of them.
Not talking about science.
I know scientists, for God's sake.
I know great ones.
That's not it.
I know lab technicians, but that's not the problem.
We're so sick now, we think it's normal.
You're supposed to be normal to have fibroids
and endometriosis.
It's not supposed to be normal.
It's supposed to be normal to have fibro, fibroids,
Hashimoto's, some other thyroid problem.
totally normal now all of it's normal but science research won't cough it up they won't chalk it up
there's grandfathered laws going back long before our time that made decisions for us
already for us without our choice involved and nobody knows this except spirit of compassion
and i'm and i've been trying to send that message around and you know what i don't think people like
it because i've been i've been gaining some speed and it's pissing some people off and i get it i
get it, but I'm about protecting
womankind, and of course men,
but protecting womankind
and making sure they get what they need
so they can heal, giving them a chance.
You go to the doctor, functional medicine doctor today,
and they're like, it's autoimmune, your body's attacking itself.
And they tell your 17-year-old daughter
or 18-year-old daughter that her body's destroying
itself. We are in such a bad
place right now, and no one really
cares, or no one really knows,
but I'm fighting for everything.
There's so much autoimmune.
It does feel like the autoimmune
it's like everyone that you know or family or everybody has some kind of autoimmune.
And autoimmune is a mystery word for blaming everybody that their immune system is destroying
its organs and its body, right? And the person's body. It's not the truth though. It was a theory
in 1950. So then what is it? It's viruses creating, it was good. You guys are siblings. Wait a minute.
You guys are siblings.
It's viruses and bacteria, but mostly viruses, okay?
Creating inflammation in the body.
Don't you think, though, it is important to have some science that can back these things?
Because you're talking about inflammation.
I wish there was.
But there are a lot of doctors and people that I really respect and love that are so into this.
Well, what about diet, actually?
That's an interesting question because all these diet books have come out.
Diets have evolved or changed every fucking year.
there's a new diet, right?
There's the paleo.
Yeah, like the keto.
What do you eat?
Like, what do you eat for breakfast?
Well, the thing is, look,
I'm always about taking toxic heavy metals out of the body.
No eggs.
Yes, yes.
Toxic heavy metals is critical.
Dude, salad.
So listen, so salad?
Salad for breakfast.
Like, do you eat meat?
Oh my God, strike me up.
I don't eat meat.
You don't eat meat.
But listen, I recommend meat all the time to people.
Right.
I recommend all kinds of foods to people.
That's not the problem.
meat's not the problem of why people are sick so it doesn't have to do as much with the diet
i mean can i eat anything i want other than eggs it all depends it all depends on what's in you
it all depends on what's in you how many metals you have yeah and how many bugs you have
so that's the russian roulette okay we can keep on eating all these things and keep on eating all
these different things and then all of a sudden those bugs feed and get happy and then boom you're
Like, what's this tingles and numbness?
Why do I have this tingles and numbness?
Why do I have, why am I not feeling good?
What's this fatigue?
And now you're at a doctor and they have no idea why.
They'll give you a trendy reason or something.
Now you're at another doctor, another doctor, you see?
And so that's where spirit of compassion broke all this down,
broke the doors down.
People are like, they're like living their lives now
because of his information.
But because of that, well, foods, right?
Right.
Okay, back to the fish and all that.
Okay, yeah.
Okay?
if you don't have a lot of heavy metals a lot of mercury in your system a lot of aluminum a lot of
other metals in your body right if you're one of those people that just were born with less of them
in there um didn't get a lot more in you somehow through a pharmaceutical or anything else and then
and if you didn't have a lot of pesticides and herbicides fungicides petrochemicals somehow
plastics all that build up if you didn't if you're if your load of all that junk is down in your
liver and it's not really high, then it may not feed your Epstein-Barr virus that everybody has.
One of the more 60 varieties of Epstein-Barr, which I'm going to talk about.
What's in that water bottle?
And should I be drinking what you're drinking?
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
That's the magic.
That's the mix.
That's the mix right there.
That's the secret.
That's from Spirit.
I haven't given anybody that one.
The Epstein-Barr, definitely I want to touch on because we have close friends who have Epstein-Barr.
If you got a lot of, okay, I'll just cut it down in this nutshell, total nutshell.
You got a lot of poison and you got a few bugs, they get together.
The bugs eat the poison and you get sick.
Eczema psoriasis is caused by Epstein-Barr feeding off of copper inside the liver,
then releasing a dermatoxin.
I'm the first person to come out with that ever.
And it's healing people.
And the spirit of compassion told you this.
Yes, of course.
Okay, wait, okay, wait.
One thing comes from anywhere else.
That went so fast, I didn't understand what just happened.
I got it.
You did not get it.
Got it.
Hold on.
I'm going to say it back.
The bugs eat the poison, right?
And then the bugs then eat the copper from the liver, and then they shit out bad stuff.
Yes.
The bugs need to eat.
Bugs have to eat.
Holly, that's impressive.
That information came from up here.
And now you're hearing it out there in articles and stuff, but it only came from here.
Viruses eat food.
That's medical medium information, okay?
And now it's taking over out there because people are realizing it.
Lab technicians are actually chalking it up, finally talking about it.
Viruses eat food, and then they crap it out.
And when they crap it out, it's freaking toxic, like methyl toxic, like worse than methyl toxic, like neurotoxins, right?
So everybody gets the tingles, numbness, the aches and pains, the fatigue.
Danny's having an information orgasm right now.
You get the floaters in the eyes, right?
You get the floaters in the eyes.
and then you get yeah right you get the eye floaters yeah i got that my wife is sitting
here with us aaron she got the floaters in the eye and you need a nap when everybody else doesn't
need a nap and then you got all this stuff going on right well this one got the floaters in the
eyeballs she's fatigued all the fucking time then you get about a dizziness some people get about a
dizziness some people get vertigo some people get tinnitus all of a sudden the ringing in the air
isn't just what everybody says in the spiritual world which isn't correct is you're hearing a
ringing because somebody's talking about you that's great or or spiritual energy's talking to
you no yeah sorry you're getting a ringing because it's the first beginning of your first bouts of
mild tinnitus that are acute that will come later on down the road if you don't clean up your epstein
bar and start eating better or learning medical medium information that's great no one is immune
or protected from from all of it unless they know unless they know what they need to do to
protect no one is safe you know what you know what spirit said to me and i was younger spirit
said here's the key you need to know the cause and what to do about it how to fix it cause and
how to fix it still in today's research and science i don't care how many articles and bogus
bullshit articles you can throw at me and on my lap i don't care whatever's going on there
women are suffering 250 million americans alone have no no like cause no meaning for their
symptoms and conditions no one's telling them what's wrong like really wrong people are suffering
people who can't take a shower women who can't get into their shower they have to time it or it'll
flatline them and they're back in bed right and it's just oh you're you must have autoimmune oh
you got lupus what's lupus nobody knows these are just labels what's ra nobody knows what's it's all
labels for nobody knows nothing science and research knows nothing about chronic illness
but don't get me wrong they know a crap ton about a whole bunch of other stuff science research is
good with a lot of things. I respect it. I like it. I love it. I know a lot of amazing people that
are brilliant in this world. And they work with science. They work with physics. They work with
things. But when their daughter's sick, they quickly realize there's no answers.
Is the remedy then, is the remedy celery juice and the things that you have put in your book,
or do you have a remedy? Meaning you have this information. You have this new information that
that science and technology does not have
that is being spoken to you from the spirit of compassion
that is coming from a otherworldly, beautiful place.
But is there a remedy for this?
The information is there,
but is there an actual way to solve this?
Absolutely.
There's ways, for instance, eczema and psoriasis, okay?
People who can't even put clothes on.
They can't wear clothes, all right?
Not just talking about mild eczema
and then they go off a gluten
and they don't know why it's helping,
but it helps a little.
And then they're getting eczema again
and they're flopping around with different diets.
I'm talking about eczema, it's just bad, right?
And they went to 10 doctors
and their body's attacking itself,
their body's destroying itself, they're told, right?
With eczema.
And then, yeah, if you get the copper,
which science research has no idea about
that came from spiritual mass,
you get the copper out of the liver
and then you get the bugs down like the Epstein-Barr
and you start killing it off,
you're free from eczema and psoriasis.
How do you get the copper out of the liver?
Heavy metal, medical medium, heavy metal detox smoothie.
It's critical.
It's critical.
It's what's getting people, their bodies like healed.
And what's in that?
You know what I mean?
Like what are we eating?
Yeah.
Yep.
There's the Fab Five.
I'm serious.
The Fab Five, I call it.
Yeah.
It's all in his books.
I know, but not everyone has read the book who's listening to the podcast.
Okay.
Yeah.
It takes five things put together in the smoothie.
Yeah.
It takes a little bit of dulse, which comes from the ocean.
Yeah.
Okay.
Atlantic dulse.
Takes cilantro.
My favorite.
But cilantro doesn't work on its own.
People don't realize that.
You need to activate the cilantro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Takes cilantro.
Okay.
It takes wild blueberries.
Yep.
Wild.
It has to be wild blueberries.
It takes barley grass juice powder.
And it takes spirulina, a really good one.
And I always tell people just, you know,
go to the medical medium community,
see what they're using.
They know the best stuff,
which is on my directory or whatever.
And you'll see the best spirulina and so forth.
But the bottom line is it takes that collaboration of things
because here's how metals work.
It doesn't take chlorella.
That's disastrous, awful.
It moves metal around a little bit
into a new spot in your brain.
So you get sicker.
Just don't do chlorella.
Why chlorella?
Why do you, why?
It's irresponsible.
it's like if someone was to carry glass,
a whole bunch of glass,
and their responsibility was to carry glass,
but they were the kind of person
that just didn't have the control
and dropped it all the time.
That's what Corella is.
It actually drops the metal.
It can't hold onto it.
It could barely move it.
And when it starts pushing it and moving it,
like it's too weak.
It can't pick up the metal out of the brain tissue,
out of your glial cells.
It can't get the oxidation in your brain out
so you can get rid of your depression and your anxiety
and your Alzheimer's and your memory loss.
You can't get, it doesn't work.
Instead, it makes it worse.
It moves it.
It smears the metal.
Science research doesn't know this,
but even with all my work, five books out, okay?
Five New York Times bestselling books
and everything else out or whatever,
what happens is that everybody's still using Cruella
and I still see it.
And it's like the young people are indoctrinated into Cruella again by, I guess, practitioners or somebody who just doesn't know.
And it's disastrous because if you really have problems, it's not going to work.
Are you frustrated?
I mean, you sound like frustrated, meaning like you're frustrated that you have all this information, even though, let's be honest, you're making good money and you're doing your thing.
There's no doubt about that, as we all should.
But even though, are you still frustrated?
Like, you guys, just pay attention.
Well, I'm frustrated because I turn down good money.
You do?
Yeah.
But I work for the people.
I work for the chronically ill, okay?
And yes, I need money enough to survive, sure.
But there's no way you can call me rich.
But one thing for sure is I could get rich tomorrow,
and I just won't do it.
Everybody thinks I own a celery farm.
All the celery farms.
Oh, well, see, I have this theory.
You should invest in them.
Should have invested.
Well, how does it feel to be there?
root cause of celery shortage in the United States.
How does it feel to be that person?
I know, I know.
That's hard.
And I'm convinced you do own celery farms.
I have a theory that before you released the book,
you bought all the fucking celery in the United States
because you knew what was going to happen.
And look, I may jump in with somebody on something
if it can change the world that much.
I might jump in somebody, you know, tomorrow.
Be like, all right, let's create this.
Okay, let's do this if it's going to save the planet.
But the bottom line is, you know, I let everybody else make the money.
And they should.
They should.
I'm on the juice, right?
I'm on the juice, celery juice.
I shit my brains out every morning.
Oliver.
It's good.
Jesus.
It honestly feels like I am releasing toxins out of my body.
It feels amazing.
But I do go to Whole Foods or wherever I want to buy celery,
and half the time there's nothing left.
There's nothing there.
I mean, it's really amazing to see from a product standpoint how effective you have been.
And they're growing a ton of it.
I mean, a ton.
They're growing hundreds and hundreds of times.
Yeah, I know.
I'm gonna wear my Rothies today.
You're gonna jingle every ad that we do?
That's amazing.
That's a good idea, by the way.
I'm gonna give my girlfriend a Rothie.
She's gonna wear it tonight.
I'm walking on plastic bottles.
We're recycling all through the night.
Rothy, Rothy, Rothy.
Yeah, that was good.
You even got in like a talking point,
which is the whole reason why we love Rothy's.
Except that rhymed night and night.
Yeah, that's kind of amateur.
Okay.
They are made out of recycled plastic water bottles.
They're machine washable.
They're comfortable.
They're very easy to wear.
it's really hard to make sustainable shoes.
Well, this seems to be the ultimate.
I mean, 35 million water bottles from landfills.
Free shipping, free returns and exchanges.
No risk, no worries.
No reason not to try.
Was that written for you or did you just come up with that?
No, I read that.
That was good.
Yeah, thank you.
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Do you still take clients?
No.
No.
So you-
No, that stopped when the waiting list
got into the millions five years ago.
Oh my God.
Millions.
No, millions the waiting list got into.
That's crazy.
And that's when I had to stop
because Spirit of Compassion said,
you have to put the book out now, the first book.
And I held it off.
Spirit of Compassion asked me to put the book out
10 years before and even earlier.
I just, I wanted to help out as many people.
I mean, I was on call 24 seven.
I worked seven days a week for six straight years without a half a day off, no holidays, nothing.
That's how I was.
All night long, I was woken up throughout the night with an emergency service that called me.
You name it.
I had relationships with dozens and dozens of doctors, the ones I've trusted, and their patients, helping with their patients.
That was my life.
I was saturated in it, and I didn't mind it.
I just never slept.
I never took care of myself.
I still don't take care of myself today on any level practically.
I drink celery juice.
I eat as good as I can, which I eat.
Do you exercise or no?
I don't have time.
No exercise, yeah.
Literally don't have time.
It's been about everybody and their pain and suffering.
That's what it's been.
You wouldn't believe.
So when you look at the negative stuff that's out there because they think I'm the celery entrepreneur king,
or they think I cornered the globe with money or something,
or they think I'm, you know, taking from the poor and the sick.
You know, it's just unbelievable where that stuff comes from.
I mean, if they knew what I've been through and what I do,
they would, sorry, I'm cutting you off.
No, it's fine.
How do you deal with the skeptics, the naysayers?
What's your approach?
Do you ever find that you get defensive?
Well, you know, I'm not supposed to get defensive.
Yeah.
But I'm a human being.
Right.
I'm just like, you know, there's skeptics in every field and every, God, there's skeptics
about everything.
But how do you handle it?
The first thing I say is you haven't been that sick yet.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because when you are and you're sucking it out and you find out your precious science
and research hasn't done anything for you and you're like on your hands and knees like
a lot of people are, then, you know, then, you know, think about it and then come back
to me.
Right.
Because until you're there, you'll never know.
And that's the thing.
anybody who's ever ripped me down,
ripped me apart, took cheap shots
because that's what darkness does.
Anybody who ever has never was sick.
So what are the top things that you,
like if you were to say today,
if I had a wand that I could wave,
which you do actually have,
you have a wand you can wave,
but if I could have,
everyone could get off these foods.
What would those foods be?
Okay, number one food of all time
to get off of is eggs.
No.
All it does.
No, Anthony, no.
All it does,
And here's the amazing thing.
Here's the amazing thing.
Oh, that's tough.
Eggs is a tough one, right?
Sure.
Okay, here's the thing.
If you're a woman and you're battling fibroids, endometriosis, cysts, ovarian cysts, PCOS,
the eggs will worsen it quickly.
Even though you go to the doctor, like you need to go on lots of eggs.
You go on the best functional medicine doctor.
You need to go on lots of eggs.
You know, you need wherever, whoever it is, practitioner, you need to go on lots of eggs.
That's what you'll hear.
Women get told to eat eggs.
It's like literally universal
where women are supposed to eat eggs.
Meanwhile, it worsens every single
reproductive system problem there is
and gets you into the hot flashes, perimenopause,
all that early.
It gets you into all these problems.
It's the first food that should just be stopped.
It was great 100 years ago or more.
It was a food staple that was critical.
It was a good food that was actually partially good for you
and couldn't hurt you.
the industry abused it they took it they fed the bugs the bugs got into women you can use your
imagination imagination on how that might have happened but it got into women and then they're
feeding those bugs and we got this epidemic like of chronic epic epic epidemic of chronic illness
so that's just how it is what's another food you got the eggs another food is is dairy products
yeah dairy i'm sort of why including sheep's milk goat's milk kefir all of it every now and then
i'll hear i'm on kefir and i'm like because you're feeding the bugs okay eat that too but but it's
but they eat it less they eat it less but they still eat it and epstein-bar there's over 60
varieties of epstein-bar mutations and variations that's information spirit of compassion brought to
here and no one knows it yet science research just believes it's one virus it's not and each
variety eats something different it eats different things it likes eggs more than it likes dairy it
likes dairy more than it likes gluten it likes and gluten's the next one do you have like a little
black book of all the things that you've like the spirit of compassion has told you that you just
like make sure that you check off every time i got a lot i got i got volumes of information from
spirit of compassion that's not even medical because i've asked personal questions on what's
happening up there, how the planets work, what's going on, what about angels?
I asked about what about demons?
What about what people think are darkness?
I've asked every question.
You can possibly add yourself out of my boredom, out of my boredom through life because that's
changing gears.
And I'm going to call you aunt for now.
What do you do for fun?
Forget about this for a second.
What do you do for fun, man?
Do you drink or smoke weed or anything like that?
I don't smoke weed.
You play golf?
Don't smoke weed.
I don't drink.
I won't put alcohol in me, but I still like, you know, my friends drink.
Some of my friends drink, so they drink wine.
They'll be like, hey, hey, aunt.
Hey, W, A-W, it's got antioxidants, right?
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it does.
But what's your fun day, dude?
Does the spirit of compassion want me to have this tequila?
I'm just curious.
Yes.
What do you do for fun, though?
For real, what do you do for fun?
My fun is nature, but here's one thing.
goes on right fun is nature because i could get away from everybody i could get away from everybody
there's nothing worse than hundreds and hundreds of readings come through you know like when i was
on a plane and with my assistant and there was all this commotion in the back and everybody's
freaking out stewardess is running around and flight attendants are running around or whatever
and everybody's freaking and and i told my assistant i said it's somebody's having a seizure
back there's a guy having a seizure back there because spirit told me and they're like okay few
at least we know what's going on my assistant was like few and eased off and then and then later it
all calmed down and then we asked the flight attendant and she was like there's a guy having
a seizure in the back but that's not all every person walking by in the in on the plane i'm
getting a read one after another so i need peace so what happens and you can't stop it and here's
the problem i go blind like right now i'm half blind because we have this many people in the
and so because of that
spirit's been giving me information
then I'm getting snow blindness
and so think about a big crowd
I really get screwed with a big crowd
it's really bad
are you saying you know information about us right now
it's unavoidable
why aren't you telling us
do you ever walk around and be like
oh god that guy's fucked
I did that
I'm in here like uh oh
the guy passes you in the airport like that guy's fucked
I grew up
yanking on shirt sleeves right saying you got a brain tumor mister and i paid the price i paid
the price of knocking on people's shoulders and said hey listen you got an aneurysm and you got
to get it checked out because i believe in surgeons i believe in neurosurgeon i know a neurosurgeon
i saves lives every day and i'm like wow i don't know how you do it he says well we use robots now
but the point is the point is and that's technology but he but he tells me at the same time chronic
illness suffers he says we can't help they just lay in their bed and they'd slowly die or they
just survive or god willing here's the thing here's the thing right the crowds are so intense
on me right it's why i stopped the lectures the last one i did i could only handle they had a
cap it at 5 000 to stop people from coming in because 5 000 was all i before i would feel like
i would get a cranial seizure so so i mean i could pack a place now at 30 000 i was told
that I was told wherever I fly in this world right now,
there'd be 50,000 in a stadium right now.
So I have to, so I couldn't do it.
So I have a question about that, actually.
I have a question because, listen, real quick,
do you feel a responsibility to get it right?
Because in everything in life, there is a failure rate.
I'm personally wrong all the time.
Spirit's always right.
But even if the spirit of compassion tells you that that person has a brain tumor, there has to be some percentage of failures in that.
And do you account for that?
And do you feel like a responsibility to be correct when you are getting that message?
I feel like grandfathered science and research in women's health is responsible.
I feel like the laws that were made without anybody's choice women's you know it's all about
women's choice right right well guess what choices were made for them purposely to keep them sick
and down in this to where we are now and they were made back in the old days and they're in vaults
and you're not going to see it on the internet no way in hell okay and those choices were made
like the body attacking itself to make sure women are kept down that there's no answers ever given
and women with chronic illness.
That's one.
The other one is the gene theory.
Okay, all our genes went bad in the last 30 years?
You mean centuries and centuries and centuries go by
and then all our genes went bad in the last 10 years?
No, our genes aren't bad.
It's telling a woman, you're faulty, your genes suck,
you actually are unhealthy
because your genes are the problem.
It's inescapable.
You're a bad person,
meaning your physical body's a bad unit.
Discard.
It's set up like this to hurt everybody.
and men and boys and young boys and you know children all that are all getting affected too
it's not you know but the point is it's like set up right like that spirit of compassion is always
right doesn't mean i'm always right personally if i don't go with spirit of compassion and i have my
own opinion i could be wrong about something i was sitting in my garden up in maine and my neighbor
came over and said he said i don't know how you got my wife better she couldn't walk you're the
one that found out she had arsenic poisoning and nobody else did no doctor she was crippled now
she's walking right and i and i was younger so i was cocky right i was a little cockier and i was
in the garden and i i was pulling up onions and i was in there and i stood up and i looked at him
and i said that's because i'm always right never forget it damn it and i'm never wrong never gonna
be wrong and it's always gonna be like that i got up i walked three feet i stepped on a hoe
and it's like a rake kind of ho thing and it slipped it went up smacked me in the face and
knocked me out and i was on the ground like it's in the garden it's like tom and jerry
i got woken up okay by the neighbor standing over me like are you okay and then spirit said
remember this and never forget it i'm always right and you're wrong keep that in mind whatever you do
i'm right and you're wrong and i right there from there on out i realized yeah i meant you know i
could walk outside this door after this podcast and step off your step wrong and land on my face
and i was wrong on how i judge that step and but but spirit's not wrong about this information
you ever not listen to spirit but i'm not sure when i was in my teens i was like i'm not listening
to you today right i'm gonna do my own thing can you and then break my wrist or something can you
tune him out can you tune him out yeah can't be tuned out no can't i just can't here okay here's
How do you go out to dinner?
This is back to your question.
What do I do for fun?
I need to be in nature, but I never get the chance anymore.
I like being in nature where things are calm and good, but here's what happens.
All I need is a jetliner way up flying over, and the reeds come through.
And I got to wait.
So I'm sitting on a rock in nature like, son of a bitch.
You can't just get that plane.
This is the only podcast ever that I've ever sworn ever in.
Really?
I've never sworn.
Is this because you're influencing me?
Because I'm telling you, I've never sworn in anything I've ever done, not any live.
We can bleep you out.
We can or cut it.
No lecture.
I've never sworn.
It doesn't matter.
It's because you're in our home.
You guys are a bad influence, man.
I can't.
No, we're a good influence.
No.
So the thing is.
What do you do for fun?
You come to our house and you do the podcast.
Well, it is fun.
It is.
Actually, it's the funnest thing I've done.
This is so, so, so.
That makes me happy because that was the whole reason why we wanted to do that.
I had a question actually about, you know, I was reading, you know, some of the controversies, obviously.
And there are, you know, people who are such devout followers of you that they're like foregoing chemotherapies or, you know, certain traditional medicines because they're so wholeheartedly into what you do.
Yeah.
do you say to those people, I'm not saying you have to give an answer necessarily to these people,
but is that something you would support or tell them, look, you need to do what you have to do
as far as staying alive? Modern medicine for cancer and so forth, like chemotherapy and
everything, it's come a long way. In the old days, it was so wretched. You didn't stand a
chance in the old days you didn't the chemotherapy in the old days just annihilated you they've
learned to alter the chemistry back it down small dosages took forever for those protocols to change
you know and so i'm not anti any of that what i'm anti is um chemotherapy for something they
they know nothing about and that's what they're doing now too so using chemotherapy for all these
autoimmune disorders, says Astros, because you can't kill the virus that's creating the autoimmune
disorder. And the chemotherapy just weakens the immune system so the virus can get stronger. So
I'm a little, I'm a little put off by that one. Back in the old days. Don't they give chemo for
MS? They give chemo now for, I mean, they're just, they're just, they're tacking Lyme disease. I
mean, they're just all of it. They're just tacking it in, they're tacking it on. And let's learn
about why people are really sick before we just start throwing like darts that that heavy and the
swords you know using swords that heavy and um the old days chemotherapy was just it was like the
lyme disease in the old days where antibiotics until the person is literally crippled or or gone
and and um it wasn't until cat's claw came onto the scene because the spirit of compassion back
30 years ago when when um you know i was teaching doctors how to use cat's claw for the lyme
patients that changed that so that the antibiotics dropped that's because of me am i going to get
credit never and do i want it no but i wish spirit would get i wish i wish spirit would get kind of
some credit spirit though the problem is it's not about credit it's about making sure the information
stays pure and that they know where it sources so they can keep on getting more information to heal
them that's it's not about credit it's just about that um but the bottom line is um so the
chemotherapy sure like chemotherapy now is always coupled with alternative medicine now you get most
cancer doctors are like yes take your this oil take your that take your curcumin take your take
and they're saying that that's amazing that's a big change yeah and that's why people are really
getting a lot of help from it where they most everybody will go the chemotherapy route because
they're scared and their family pushes them into it literally so so now though they have a shot
because their their doctor's allowing them to go to a naturopath too or a functional doctor that
says you need to be on coenzyme q10 ala you need to be on all these other things and so that's that's
a miracle right that's a miracle and the chemotherapies have changed and altered now where
they're not so harsh they've they've lowered dosages and then they've done cocktails that
that they're using to try to explore to see if it affects cancer i'm not against it i'm not against
somebody's decision to go chemotherapy i i and in radiation i am against radiation therapy um for
cancer unless it's just for pain management to get somebody off of morphine. That's when I'm
supportive of radiation, direct current radiation for when you're literally on morphine. I mean,
you got like a tumor, you're suffering, you're in agony. I mean, I've known so many people in agony.
That's when I'm okay with that. But radiation on a whole, in general, when someone doesn't have
that going on, totally anti that, 100%. Do you also believe food, what we eat, how we eat,
is a direct reflection of our mental state? Absolutely. I talk about in Life Changing
Foods, my book, a plug, my Life Changing Foods book, Life Changing Foods.
Life Changing Foods, reading it tonight, actually. Life Changing Foods, I talk about how these foods
also have powers that help our emotional state. Absolutely. Like the wild blueberries, the wild
blueberries of Maine, okay?
Why Maine?
It seems like you're biased.
They're so adapting.
I don't know.
What if I got wild blueberries in like Vermont?
The wild blueberry, it's not
cultivated, right? It's wild.
So it survived thousands of years of
abuse from the weather in different conditions.
I mean, coming out of the ice age,
those wild blueberries.
They're just resilient.
You can burn the
wild blueberry field down.
That's like my soul.
That should be something, wild blueberry productions.
You can burn the wild blueberries down to the ground,
like all of it until it's ash,
and it'll come up the next year.
You can burn other things, they're not coming up.
That sounds pretty, that sounds.
I love it.
The wild blueberry has the power
to help somebody rise out of the ashes.
I'll tell you why.
Like a phoenix, because it does that itself too, right?
It has so much power to it.
And so when you eat those,
you're getting 10,000 years or more of this power that's that adaptogenic ability because that's the
true adaptogenic food on the planet. It's that one. That's the only one that could survive anything.
Well, if you ever have a production company, it should be Wild Blueberry Productions. Just,
you know, you can have that one. Oh, you know, you know what's so crazy? What about morel mushrooms?
Do you know anything about those? Yeah, people like to eat them, right?
Lots of mushroom talk to happen. What about magic mushrooms?
Yeah, man, mushrooms, man. Psychedelic.
But I mean, what about ayahuasca?
Like what about these sort of ancient practice, natural psychedelic practices?
Okay, like ayahuasca falls back into the recreational kind of thing.
It falls back into like how effed up do you want your head and can you survive it and get a spiritual outcome at the end of it?
You know what I mean?
And it's like it falls into the category of, you know, how do you tell a stoner to say,
like, hey, man, you're pushing the weed too hard.
You need to take a break.
You know, you can't even judge that.
The stoner knows best.
He's been doing it all these years and so forth.
Knows what the capacity is.
Knows how much weed, I guess.
Anthony, why are you looking at me when you're talking?
Anthony, why are you pointing at me?
Look, I'm the one who's done ayahuasca here.
You got to look at me.
Spirit of compassion.
Yeah, spirit of compassion is coming though big time right now.
No, no, but you're right.
It's a personal choice.
It's one of those things, a personal choice.
My brain went to celery juice, honestly.
Before you do ayahuasca.
No, not ayahuasca, but with psilocybin, with mushrooms.
Yeah.
First of all, I've read this book that Michael Pollan wrote, which is really a great book.
And it talks about sort of the history of psilocybin.
And basically now there's been a new research, studies and research that John Hopkins is doing on psilocybin that the medical community is actually performing and doing and it has funding.
And it brought me back to the celery experience where they're not even really giving that as much of a chance as the psychedelic.
It's the most powerful medicine of our time on planet Earth right now is celery juice.
the most powerful medicine and long after i'm dead and gone you guys you know i love it dude
like i really do you believe me that stuff will never die the whole planet will be doing it it'll
be in the billions because it is the most powerful medicine it stood this it stood the test of time
of of criticism it stood the test of time of everything because it's the only thing that
works here's how it works here's how it works a trend because it becomes a trend because money's
behind it i don't care what it is kombucha tea just throw it at me what trend is out there right
yeah you could think of some i could think of a whole so the keto diet or keto like food wise
any trend any trend because there's right the the 90s fashion trend which is horrible right now
there's money there's money everything there's money behind it right that's what it is apple
cider vinegar is money behind everything every collagen tons of money behind collagen tons of
money behind collagen it becomes a trend not because it works becomes a trend because it's
it's it's backed it's celery juice profit celery juice is not backed it's in everybody's way it
pisses everybody off it's not profitable it gets everybody angry who's trying to sell something
but yet it's taking over the world because it's the only damn thing that's really worked
really worked you got a couple it with other things i love it i really do i don't know why
because I'm relatively healthy, but I just feel clean.
I don't know.
Because people say I did it for like six weeks and I'm trying to get back on it.
But, you know, it's like I'm waiting for the feeling, you know,
of like, okay, is something going to change inside of me?
And I didn't feel like a – because I didn't have any psoriasis
or I didn't have any sort of acne or anything like that.
But I just felt clean.
I felt like gutted in a weird way.
I've had a thing that's happened to me throughout this podcast
where I've been feeling little parts of my body the whole time.
Like a psychosomatic.
Yeah, like I'll have like, I'm like, oh, that ringing in the ear.
Like, am I having a ringing in the ear?
Like I had like, oh, my God.
Well, here's the thing.
Ant, Ant, Ant, if there was something wrong with any of us,
would you say it?
That was one of my questions.
It's just that when you're dealing with our hardcore medical stuff,
it's like, damn, there's this iron horse between it all.
You know where it's like you can't knock that iron horse down because there's these instilled belief systems in people with medical aspects of it that, man, you can't break that down if you want it to.
And I don't have the time to investigate with spirit of compassion every mental thought someone's thinking of like will they be able to handle it?
Will they not?
I mean I can, but I don't have that on the fly.
Because I got to be like, okay, where are we going next?
what do i gotta do what's my assistant you know got me playing you know but yeah it comes through
all the time i mean when i was younger it's like i told you i would tap on shoulders and really
pee people off some people would be so thankful and all of a sudden i'd have a client you know
or whatever when i was younger but they were yeah so no you're saying basically like you don't you
you only really do that when it's something that you're focused on doing like if you you've never
had that as an adult like go to someone and be like i need to tell this person you know if i could
If I could go into a restaurant or go into Whole Foods, which I can't because I'll be mobbed.
Especially Whole Foods.
Well, you know what it is?
That's hysterical.
The thing is because I cannot go into Whole Foods.
Air One's a nightmare.
You know what's funny?
That's so funny.
It's so true.
The Whole Foods is laughing.
They'll just kill me.
They'll be like the celery juice guy.
They'll kill me.
And what happens is that, you know, it's like my assistants always laugh at me.
You know, they're like, first of all, because you go half blind anyway, you end up like kind of bumping into things after too many readings.
And so what's funny is they don't let me out the front door of the house because if I go wandering down the road, people are going to see me beep the horn.
It happened one time where I had to go outside in front of the house and, you know, or I'd be in front of an office building because I wanted to go visit somebody.
And there's a lot of people are beeping and yelling like celery or the horn.
They'll be like, I was putting out the garbage.
I was putting out the garbage and someone just said, I just saw you live on Insta.
And then I was just like, it's always like that.
And the thing is, is if I could go into Whole Foods again, like I, like I could 10 years ago.
Celery.
And I, and I wasn't going to get mobbed.
I then, you know, the other readings, right?
Well, the readings come through no matter what they could be coming through.
And then it might be that one person where I might be like, you know what?
You know, let, let's, let's talk about this down the road or let's talk about this.
Here's how you contact my assistant or something, you know?
My sister-in-law just asked, do you ever ask Spirit why you?
Yeah, absolutely.
All the time.
Spirit told me there was something inside of me.
It was the right recipe.
It could be a little bit of crazy.
Maybe it's just you're crazy enough.
Or a lot.
Maybe it's a little bit.
And that's okay.
I love that.
No, no, no.
But the fact that you can even say that is amazing.
Yeah.
You know, because that just adds so much more validity and credibility to everything that you do.
You can say, yeah, maybe it's a little bit fucking crazy.
I don't know.
Or maybe you had you, not the spirit of compassion, but you had the perfect amount of crazy.
You know, my friends are always like, hey, listen, hey, listen, you know, can you ask
spirit this?
And I'm like, oh, it's this.
And they go, no.
Can you ask spirit if this is this and this?
I go, no, it's this.
It's not that I don't trust you, Anthony.
It's all good.
I've known you forever.
But can you just ask spirit?
Okay.
Get spirit on the line here.
You know what I mean?
Just because you know so much and you've learned so much.
What I'm saying, me, I love what you're saying.
No, spirit's happy with weight.
Okay, good.
I need a spirit in my life that I could just be like, I don't know.
Spirit.
Kate, Kate, just call me.
You know my number.
Just call me.
You got the best sibling in the world.
That's right.
Just call me.
Well, dude, thank you so much, bro.
This was so much fun.
It really was.
We were looking forward to this for a long time.
That's cool, man.
When we started this whole podcast idea, you were one of the first who, outside of the celebrity sibling world, were like, we have to get medical medium.
And at that point, I didn't even know your name.
I just thought you were medical medium.
I was like, that's a strange name.
But it turns out you have a name, Anthony.
And I call you Ant now because we're homies.
Keep up the meaningful work, man.
Yeah.
Thank you so much, brother.
Yeah, you're great.
You guys are doing big work, you know?
Yeah.
Thank you.
Cool.
Thanks, bud.
Love you.
Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson,
Oliver Hudson, and Sim Sarna.
Supervising producer is Alison Bresnik.
Editor is Josh Windisch.
Music by Mark Hudson, a.k.a. Uncle Mark.
